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Belonging & Becoming

Life, Learning, and Virtue in Today’s Complex World
A podcast featuring Asbury University President, Dr. Kevin Brown

Belonging and Becoming is a podcast featuring Asbury University President, Dr. Kevin Brown. Twice a month you’ll hear insights about life, learning, and virtue, as well as Christian higher education. Episodes feature interviews with Asbury graduates whose lives and careers uniquely reflect virtue and continued learning. Our hope is that each episode will encourage you in your life journey as we seek to live well.



Newest Episodes


Friday, April 2, 2021 — Wesleyan Theology and Why It Matters Today, Part 2

Today’s episode is part 2 of an exploration of Wesleyan theology and why it matters today. If you haven’t listened to part 1 of this podcast, we invite you to check that out. In today’s episode, Asbury President Dr. Kevin Brown continues his discussion with Dr. Tom McCall on a fuller understanding of sanctification. Today’s episode was edited by Asbury senior Kaleb Shipman.

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Friday, March 19, 2021 — Interview: Sarah Kuban ’05, Magnolia Network

It all began as a dream that she could someday become the next Katie Couric. Asbury graduate Sarah Kuban ’05 came to Asbury, hoping to become a news anchor. But God led her in a different path and for a decade she's developed programming like Windy City Rehab and Say Yes to the Nest for HGTV and the DIY Network. Now, in her role as Vice President of Content she's working with Chip and Joanna Gaines to premier a whole new network, Magnolia. Asbury President Dr. Kevin Brown interviews Sarah in today’s episode.

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Monday, March 8, 2021 — Wesleyan Theology and Why It Matters Today, Part 1

What is Wesleyan theology at its core? Asbury Theology professor Thomas McCall says it's a "massive, very beautiful vision that the Triune God, whose nature is Holy Love, creates us for the purpose of sharing that love." In today's episode, Asbury President Dr. Kevin Brown sits down with Dr. McCall to open up Wesleyan theology for all of us. As they talk you'll learn what makes it unique and why it matters today.

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Friday, February 19, 2021 — Asbury President Dr. Kevin Brown interviews ’03 graduate Dr. Shawn Okpebholo

A liberal arts education means students get much more than a major. In today’s conversation with Asbury President Dr. Kevin Brown, Dr. Shawn Okpebholo from the class of ’03 shares his love for music, unity, and the liberal arts. Dr. Okpebholo is an award-winning composer whose work has taken him to Carnegie Hall, The Kennedy Center, and the National Cathedral. He’s currently a professor of Music Composition and Theory at Wheaton College. Today’s episode was edited by Asbury senior Kaleb Shipman.

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Friday, February 5, 2021 — The Virtuous Life: Is it possible in 2021? Part 2

What does it mean to be designed for good, while living in a culture that sometimes seems to reward the bad? This is part 2 of our discussion of Dr. Kevin Brown’s book, Designed for Good: Rediscovering the Idea, Language, and Practice of Virtue. Dr. Brown talks about the power of the virtuous life and acknowledges men and women in his life who “lived that truth.” Part 2 of the interview is followed by a short update from senior Kaleb Shipman on the Pitts Center, which was designed to expand the university’s civic engagement.

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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 — Asbury President Dr. Kevin Brown interviews ’97 graduate Andrea Baker

In today’s conversation with Asbury President Dr. Kevin Brown, Andrea Baker from the class of ’97 shares about what led her and her husband Andy to a life of serving others, and what that looks like now. Andrea is the executive director of Word Made Flesh Bolivia, an organization dedicated to offering opportunities for holistic transformation for those affected by sexual exploitation. Andrea shares her firsthand experiences helping victims. As a result, this episode is recommended for a mature audience. Today’s episode was edited by Asbury senior Kaleb Shipman.

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Friday, January 8, 2021 — The Virtuous Life: Is it possible in 2021? Part 1

Asbury University President Kevin Brown talks about his book, “Designed for Good: Rediscovering the Idea, Language, and Practice of Virtue.” What does a principle Aristotle discussed more than 2,000 years ago have to say to us today? Dr. Brown discusses that and what the study of virtue can mean for students entering a university like Asbury.

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Friday, December 18, 2020 — Merry Christmas!

On this Christmas episode, Asbury President Kevin Brown and family share some of their treasured Christmas traditions and memories. Children Campbell, Ada and Oliver will make you smile with their perspectives; they’re followed by Kevin and Maria Brown’s thoughtful Christmas reflections. The podcast concludes with the singing of Silent Night by the Asbury Chorale. It’s from the music department’s 2019 Songs of the Season concert. The opening flute melody was played by student Robyn Cook, and the flute descant was written by Asbury faculty member Dr. Vicki Bell. Pianist for this performance was Celeste Letchworth.

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Friday, December 4, 2020 — The Future of Christian Higher Education, Part 2

Asbury University President Dr. Kevin Brown, quoting E. Stanley Jones, says education at its core should be about what we love, not simply what we know. Brown discusses why an education at a Christian liberal arts institution like Asbury is so valuable, pointing to the university’s new honors program and future of work initiative, as well as success stories of recent graduates. The show concludes with student body president Demarion Johnson discussing why listening is so vital in these challenging times.

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Friday, November 20, 2020 — Asbury President Dr. Kevin Brown interviews ’98 graduate Andrew Coleman

In this conversation with Asbury President Kevin Brown, Andrew Coleman ’98 shares about a life-changing encounter during an Asbury chapel service. The senior vice president and general manager of GE Aviation Digital also talks about what it means to be a wingman, serving others, even while working as a manager at a high tech Fortune 500 company. Then, he shares what we can learn about preparing for the future by the ways GE has learned to take data off of aircraft to gain insights that make air travel the safest in the world.

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